Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life explores how purpose, leadership, and humanity must evolve alongside rapid technological change. Through deep conversations with thinkers, leaders, and change-makers, the podcast offers clear insights and practical reflections to help you work, lead, and thrive — without losing the human heartbeat. Hosted by Francine Beleyi, founder of nucleus of change.
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Tuesday Jan 06, 2026
Tuesday Jan 06, 2026
AI is advancing rapidly — but our thinking about its impact on humanity is lagging behind.
In this episode of Meaningful Work, Meaningful Life, Francine Beleyi welcomes back Jazz Rasool, Industry 5.0 strategist and advisor on human–machine collaboration, to explore a critical distinction shaping the future of leadership, work, and ethics:
Human-centred AI is not enough. We need humanity-centred AI.
Jazz explains why centring AI on “humans” can still legitimise harm, misalignment, and loss of responsibility — and why a humanity-centred approach protects conscience, compassion, dignity, and meaning.
Together, they examine what must never be automated, how organisations confuse optimisation with flourishing, and what it truly means to stay on purpose in the AI age.
In this episode, we explore:
- The hidden risk behind human-centred AI
- Why humanity — not efficiency — must guide AI design
- What leadership cannot outsource
- How AI can support human flourishing rather than erode it
A thoughtful conversation for leaders, professionals, and change-makers navigating work, purpose, and responsibility in the age of AI.
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